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Opponents of an Article V convention have been repeatedly defeated in their claims that an Article V convention would “run away.”1 The Framers of our Constitution were wiser than that, and placed numerous checks and balances to ensure the safety of such a convention

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background image The States Control the Article V Process 

Robert Kelly, J.D. 

General Counsel, Convention of States Action 

Opponents  of an Article V convention have  been repeatedly defeated in 

their claims that an Article V convention would “run away.”1  The Framers of our 

Constitution were wiser than that, and placed numerous checks and balances 

to ensure the safety of such a convention.  Opponents of a convention have since 

rallied around a new set of arguments claiming that Congress, not the states, 

will control any Article V convention.  Robert Brown’s May 15th article entitled 

“The Article V Convention as Defined by Article V” is typical of the genre.   This 

argument fares no better than the last.  Like the runaway convention argument, 

it ignores history and substitutes fearful speculation for known fact.     

Claims that Congress controls a convention show a basic ignorance of how 

laws, and particularly constitutions, are interpreted.  For instance, Mr. Brown 

repeatedly asserts that  “the plain text and clear meaning of Article V” give 

Congress power to set the rules for a convention.  On the most basic level, this 

statement is demonstrably false.  Article V says absolutely nothing about the 

rules  for a convention and whether they are set by Congress or the states. 

According to ordinary rules of constitutional interpretation, when the text is 

silent, we must look to historical precedent and the intent of the lawmakers.    

Mr. Brown appears to draw his “clear” conclusion by reading the Necessary 

and Proper Clause in conjunction with Congress’s authority to “call” the 

convention in Article V.  But this conclusion presupposes that setting out rules 

for a convention is a necessary and proper extension of Congress’s authority to 

“call” the convention.  Contrary to Mr. Brown’s claims, this is anything but clear. 

1

 The runaway convention argument has long been touted by members of Eagle Forum and the 

John Birch Society.  Constitutional attorney Michael Farris faced Andrew Schlafly, the son of 

Eagle Forum founder Phyllis Schlafly, in a critical debate in New Jersey.  The debate can be 

viewed in full here: http:%%//%%conventionofstates.com/michael-farris-debates-andy-schlafly-new-

jersey-2/.  Since the debate many of the leaders of Eagle Forum and the John Birch Society 

have backed down from their claims that an Article V convention will “run away.” 

background image In fact, the historical record suggests that the calling body merely sets the 

time and place for the initial convention meeting.  For instance, Virginia “called” 

the Constitutional Convention of 1787.2  In its call Virginia set the time and place 

for the convention,  but it didn’t presume to determine  the rules for the 

convention or decide how the other states would select their delegates. Calls 

for other historical conventions followed the same pattern.4  Thus, as applied to 

Article V, the Necessary and Proper Clause gives Congress authority to take all 

necessary and proper steps to set the initial time and place of the convention.  

To be sure, Congress has a role in the process, but that role falls far short of 

setting the rules or selecting the delegates for the convention.  History shows 

that this power belongs to the state legislatures. 

Mr. Brown next asserts that “Congress has historically recognized this 

authority” to control a convention by “considering many bills concerning the 

selection of delegates,” etc.5   Congress has in fact considered 41 such pieces of 

legislation.  But as any legislator knows, the mere fact that legislation is filed 

means very little.   

What is far more telling is the fact that not a single one of these pieces of 

proposed Article V legislation has ever passed Congress.  Despite 41 occasions 

to do so, Congress has not asserted  control over an Article V convention.  If 

anything, Congress’s hesitancy should reinforce the states’ case that they, not 

Congress, control the convention.     

The argument then turns to ratification.  Mr. Brown quite correctly states 

that Article V gives Congress authority to select one of two modes of ratification. 

Ratification can be either by the state legislatures or by special ratification 

2

 3 THE RECORDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION OF 1787, at 559–63 (Max Farrand, ed. 1911). 

3

 In fact, even if you treat the Confederation Congress as the body which called the 

Constitutional Convention (an assertion which is patently unhistorical), the Confederation 

Congress didn’t set the rules for the convention either. Id. at 579 n.7.  The Convention itself did 

so according to established parliamentary rules of the time, and subject to the instructions set 

by the states.  See Robert G. Natelson, Founding-Era Conventions and the Meaning of the 

Constitution’s “Convention for Proposing Amendments,” 65 FLA. L. REV. 615, 674–80 (2013). 

4

 See Natelson, at 687. 

5

 To bolster this claim, Mr. Brown and other opponents of a convention often look to a 

Congressional Service Report that details these past legislative efforts by Congress.  Our staff 

has addressed the CRS report here: http:%%//%%conventionofstates.com/wp-

content/uploads/2014/04/CRS-Response.pdf.  The bottom line is that the CRS Report is 

merely a catalog of past and present Article V efforts and Congress’s response.  It does not take 

any position with regard to those efforts.  Unfortunately, the Report ignores much of the 

research that has been done into historical convention practices, and thus gives an incomplete 

summary of the topic. But even as written the report does little to support the John 

Birch/Eagle Forum position. 

background image conventions within the states.  The latter method has only been used once, for 

the ratification of the 21st Amendment.    

This second mode of ratification, however, hardly excludes the state 

legislatures.  As was the case with the ratification of the 21st Amendment, state 

legislatures will be the bodies deciding how delegates to the state ratification 

conventions  will be selected.6  Though state legislatures may not be voting 

directly on ratification, they will still exert significant influence over the process. 

Stepping solidly outside the realm of plausibility, Mr. Brown then states 

that a third method of ratification is possible, where the convention unilaterally 

scraps the three-fourths ratification requirement and imposes some lower 

threshold of its own invention.  His basis for this claim is that the Constitutional 

Convention of 1787 invented a new method of ratification for the Constitution, 

so an Article V convention today could do the same.   

Leaving aside the historical inaccuracies behind this argument,7 it ignores 

a fundamental difference between the Constitutional Convention and an Article 

V convention.  The Constitutional Convention was not called under the Articles 

of Confederation.  The Articles made no provision for such a convention.8  Rather 

the Constitutional Convention was called under the reserved sovereign authority 

of the states.  Therefore, it could do anything which the states allowed it to, up 

to and including choosing a method  of ratification for its own proposals.  By 

contrast, an Article V convention is, by definition,  called under the authority 

given in the Constitution.  Therefore it is subject to the procedures and forms 

laid down in the Constitution, like those for ratification.  Mr. Brown and other 

opponents of a convention gloss over this critical distinction, and consequently 

err in their analysis. 

Oddly enough, just a few paragraphs later Mr. Brown undercuts his own 

argument.   According to Mr. Brown, conventions not called under Article V “do 

not set any precedent for an Article V convention.”  Of course, if that were true, 

he  could not  rely on the Constitutional Convention as valid precedent for 

ratification.  

6

 See, e.g., FL. STAT. § 107.01–107.11; N.M. STAT. ANN. § 1-18-1; VT. STAT. ANN. tit. 17, §§ 1811–

1825.  

7

 As constitutional attorney Michael Farris notes, all 13 state legislatures approved the new 

ratification process for the Constitution, therefore the unanimity requirement of the Articles of 

Confederation was satisfied.  Mr. Farris’s article is available here: 

http:%%//%%conventionofstates.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Can-We-Trust-the-

Constitution-2.01.pdf.  

8

 No provision in the Articles of Confederation says anything about a convention.  Moreover, 

the Articles explicitly disclaimed the idea of implied powers. ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, art. II. 

As the result, the only possible legal basis for the Constitutional Convention and other 

conventions of the time was the reserved sovereign authority of the states. 

background image Thankfully, Mr. Brown is wrong.  Obviously precedent from prior Article V 

conventions  would  provide  weightier evidence than other sorts of multi-state 

conventions, and the plain text of the Constitution would trump them all.  

Unfortunately, the text of the Constitution is silent with regard to the rules for a 

convention, and there are no prior Article V conventions to draw from.  So we 

must turn to other conventions.  Article V, after all, was not written in a vacuum. 

Historical research shows that the Founders held at least 32 multi-state 

conventions in the period leading up to the adoption of the Constitution, 11 of 

which were held in the decade between the Declaration of Independence and the 

Constitutional Convention.9  Clearly, the Founders were no strangers to 

conventions.  Indeed, the frequency of these pre-constitutional conventions may 

explain the brevity of Article V.10    

Rules and procedures at these pre-constitutional conventions were 

surprisingly uniform.  The conventions themselves elected their own officers and 

set their own rules  subject always to the instructions issued by their state 

legislatures.11  Voting at these conventions was uniformly on the basis of one 

state, one vote.12  The indication of all existing precedent is that the states, not 

Congress, will exert ultimate authority over any Article V convention. 

Completely apart from these historical conventions, there is one critical 

piece of evidence that cements the states’ control over a convention: the intent 

of the Founders as evidenced by  the proceedings of the Constitutional 

Convention itself.  James Madison gives a full account of the proceedings leading 

to the final draft of Article V in his notes from the Convention.  According to these 

notes, George Mason strenuously objected to a proposal that only gave Congress 

authority to propose amendments.  As Madison records, “Mason thought the 

plan of amending the Constitution exceptionable and dangerous.  As the 

proposing of amendment is . . . to depend . . . on Congress, no amendments of 

the proper kind would ever be obtained by the people, if the government should 

become oppressive as he verily believed it would.”  Responding to Mason’s 

concerns, Gouverneur Morris and Elbridge Gerry “moved to amend the article, 

so as to require a convention on application of two thirds of the states.”  The 

motion passed unanimously.13 

The whole point of the convention method of amendment was to bypass 

Congress and the federal government.  If Congress were to set the rules for the 

9

 Natelson, at 620. 

10

 As Professor Natelson observes, “where the Constitution does provide rules it does so 

precisely in those few areas where existing practice had permitted variations.” Id. at 682. 

11

 Id. at 686–90. 

12

 See generally id. 

13

 2 FARRAND’S RECORDS 629–30. 

background image convention or select the delegates, the entire purpose of the convention provision 

would be undermined.   

In short, every piece of historical evidence we have tells us that the states 

will control any Article V convention.  Against this, Mr. Brown can only set vain 

imaginings and shoddy analysis.  The Founders knew what they were doing when 

they put an Article V convention in the Constitution.  They knew the federal 

government would become too powerful, and they wanted to give the states and 

the people a way to preserve their rights.  That is what a convention was designed 

to do, and that is what Article V can do, if state legislators will exercise their 

constitutional authority. 

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